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Manny Pacquiao helps Typhoon victims, helps himself; He offers up Rios as evidence that Pacman is not some historic video game, but still a force in the pound-for-pound championship boxing picture; Mayweather on deck? UPDATE: About Pacman’s speech
Manny Pacquiao, wet with sweat and Brandon Rios’ blood, took not just Leyte and Tacloban, but the entire country of the Philippines and lifted them up high in the ring.
It may not stop pneumonia or dysentery, but anything positive is better than the trickle of aid typhoon victims seem to getting these days.
And Pacquiao boxing victories, the first in two years, have been in short supply.
Now that we have one, we should see Pacquiao/Mayweather now.
Neither can wait, as time, skills, and fan interest all begin to wane.
But now things are spiking as Mayweather talks his pound-for-pound trash with no one better to fight. And Pacquiao is finally back on track.
Both men want/need the money.
Even Promoter Bob Arum was talking it up BEFORE Pacquiao’s Brandon Rios fight.
It’s going to happen.
Pacquiao did show the world he still has enough gas to go 12 top-flight rounds with anyone after his unanimous victory over Rios in Macao.
Rios was a bigger, but a slower opponent, and coming off a disappointing rematch with Mike Alvarado (who in turn was beaten by Pacquiao’s old sparring partner Ruslan Provodnikov).
Pacquiao was coming off a two fight losing streak–one loss where he was clearly robbed (Bradley), and the other , that knockout to Juan Marquez. I just never saw Rios in Pacquiao’s league, but there was that thought was maybe Manny was on the decline. IT was the only way Rios had a shot.
But Saturday showed talk of retirement was premature for the Pacman. He’s got a lot more life than an old video game. The quick Pacquiao dominated Rios in the hit parade, sometimes exchanging at a 3 or 4-1 clip, (3 or 4 Paquiao counterhits when Rios opened up with a punch).
Still, there were some moments where Pacquiao just did not look nearly as confident as he’s been in the past. Even HBO commentator Roy Jones noticed something in Paquiao’s ‘body language.” Mayweather folks may have seen that sort of thing as an edge F Jr. can exploit in a matchup.
Junior is so much quicker than Rios who seemed to land his most effective punches while grabbing Pacquiao. If Mayweather believes he has that kind of edge on Pacquiao, it could be the confidence boost to finally say yes to the fight without setting up all excuses on drug testing and such that have only mucked up negotiations in the past.
Pacquiao could schedule one more fight, a Bradley fight to avenge the grand theft. Or one fight against Provodnikov, which would be a great fight (and far from a sure win for Pacquiao). But it sure wouldn’t be the same pay day for Manny.
He just had to show exactly where he is at this point. Still a good fighter, but no longer one with a “turn-off –the-lights” KO punch.
That’s why I think Mayweather saw the fight Saturday and saw dollar signs.
The Rios fight did nothing more than re-open the negotiations for the fight we all want to see.
I bet it happens now.
On the web, I noticed talk about Pacquiao’s speech (presumably from his post-fight comments in the media), saying that Pacquiao should have a translator. Absurd. Pacquiao’s facility to speak to the people is not the issue. His gift is he speaks like a regular Filipino guy.
In the U.S. we have Joe Sixpack. In the Philippines, it’s Juan Cockfight.
Pac does show poorly if you put him up next to a polished public speaker or a professional pol who graduated from the School of Florid Colonial English with a B.S.
That’s when Paquiao’s fists do the talking.
Pacquiao might benefit from a Henry Higgins-type if Pygmalion were “Pac-malion.” But the major selling point of Pacquiao is his ”man of the people” charm. He’s just like them. A regular guy who climbed out of poverty in the Philippines to achieve wealth and world-wide fame.
A translator? Let him speak the way he does. Pacquiao just needs policy folks around him if he’s really serious about doing more in public life than being the local pol who brightens peoples’ lives and fixes their potholes.
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After the Pacquiao Bradley debacle, I stayed true to my word. Not another pay-per-view dollar from me. Pacquiao Marquez IV to me seemed like Manny’s “Groundhog Day.” Haven’t we been through that before?
But indeed, there was a new scene we didn’t expect.
Manny Pacquiao lying face down on the canvas.
It’s an image we rarely saw–until Saturday.
He stayed down a long time.
But within minutes our champion was back up, on his feet. Just like the Frank Sinatra song, “That’s Life.”
In one of the post-fight interviews in the ring, almost immediately after (the one I saw was with ESPN) Pacquiao was asked the simple question: Was he ready for another?
Pacquiao didn’t flinch. “Why not,” said the Filipino champion. “My job is to fight.”
And with those words, I think I finally saw the truth.
I don’t think he was punch-drunk. Mind you, I was one of those who for the last three Pacquiao fights have suggested that Manny retire with his brains intact. What can I say, I’m an ardent fan of boxing, but I value a man’s brains.
I also recognized the charismatic power of Pacquiao and saw him four years ago as someone who could rally the Philippines and maybe even spark the country with a massive dose of the pride that comes from being a world champion.
Isn’t that a bigger challenge than fisting a boastful Floyd Mayweather into submission?
Beyond the ring, there’s real life. Manny Pacquiao could be the leader of the Philippines.
That idea first came to me when I noticed the power of Manny’s charisma rising at the same time another politician was acting like an international rock star—Barack Obama.
Based on charisma and appeal, I even called him the Philippines’ Obama.
That may have been my dream. And maybe it was Manny’s too, for a brief second, as he did run and win a congressional seat in his Philippine district.
But I don’t think it’s Manny’s dream after his fourth fight with Juan Manuel Marquez.
Pacquiao-Marquez IV has totally changed my view.
Manny Pacquiao is not the savior of Philippine politics. He is not the statesman, the diplomat, the political leader. He’s not the future of Philippine politics or governance.
He’s a fighter. He’s a guy who works in satin underwear with his name on it.
And hearing him talk from the weigh-in to the post-fight interviews has made me see that all too clearly.
It’s like the knockout blow from Juan Manuel Marquez knocked fans like me to their senses.
I also think it knocked a little reality into Pacquiao’s life.
Pac-man’s passion, his life, and his future is in the ring. Not in the Philippine legislature. Not in Malacanang.
It’s not in movies, nor music, either.
Pacquiao said it himself, repeatedly, even after the most vicious punishment any human could take in a sanctioned athletic event.
“I’m a fighter,” he told ESPN repeatedly. “It’s my job. I’m willing to fight.”
What did we expect after that fight? A cowering Manny? No way.
“I never expected that punch,” Manny said about the right-hand smash from Marquez that Manny walked into squarely in the 6th round. “He got me (with) a good one.”
And then the question came again. Do you want another fight, a rematch?
“Why not?” he answered.
The questioner came back, “Do you want it?”
“Of course,” Manny said. And then he repeated himself, “I’m a fighter. My job is to fight.”
It would have been nice had Manny broken into a bit of diplomatic rhetoric. A line about “what a great champion Marquez is…” would have worked there, too. Marquez, in his post-fight interview talked about celebrating the victory for Mexicans around the world. Maybe Manny could have responded with a message to all the global Filipinos out there, that despite the defeat, they should all keep their chins up. Surely, there should have been some kind of message to those Filipinos ravaged by the recent typhoon in Mindinao. Now that was a knockout blow.
At the weigh-in, even HBO’s Larry Merchant threw Pacquiao a softball on the typhoon to give Manny a chance to enlarge his scope beyond boxing.
Manny showed his concern, but it just wasn’t that rhetorical flourish akin to a jab-straight-hook combo. That’s not who Manny is. But he can do wonders in the ring.
Even after the knockout blow, in his interview Manny knew his business. His true calling.
And you could sense he wanted another round.
Reports indicate that the brutal blow from Marquez may have given Pacquiao a concussion.
But when you are a boxer, concussions are as natural as blood, sweat and spittle. Those punches aren’t love taps to the head.
It’s all part of the world in which Manny belongs and is paid well for being part of. Where else is he going to get a $26 million dollar pay day just for showing up to work. That’s dollars, not pesos. His pay-per-view share, undoubtedly in the millions, is all extra. (You can watch it free this Saturday on HBO).
So I will give up my crusade insisting that Manny quit to save his brains and take on the mantle of being the Philippines’ rock star political leader.
Manny’s role goes beyond politics. He’s above all that. People go from movies and TV to politics all the time. But boxing champions are different.
They are our mythical warriors, cultural heroes. Manny doesn’t need Malacanang. He’s already head datu to Filipinos everywhere. That’s enough burden for one man. He doesn’t need the pettiness of politics. Pacquiao leads from the ring. And when he’s done, he’ll take his role as national folk hero, buddy, and humanitarian. National spirit lifter.
He doesn’t have to be Joseph Estrada.
But why rush things.
Manny turns just 34 on Dec. 17th. He’ll have a good birthday. And I’m sure an even better Christmas.
And, besides, you heard him indicate, he’s not done.
He’s a fighter. So maybe for a change we’ll really see him train like his life depended on it. And dedicate himself to showing the world that the champion can get back up and answer the bell again.
That’s what Pacquiao-Marquez IV has spawned.
Forget Mayweather. Forget the others. The franchise is set and so is the need—for Pacquiao-Marquez V.
It’s funny what people have reacted to in my post-fight post on the Pacquiao/Bradley fight on sfgate.com
I said that the outrageously bogus decision in favor of Bradley could have been “boxing’s affirmative action.”
I found the notion funny.
To me it’s as clear as “why did the chicken cross the road?”
But for those who don’t share my sense of humor, allow me to explain.
Tim Bradley did not deserve to win. The judges inexplicably gave him the fight. This is not good.
The standard anti-affirmative action stance is that affirmative action is often thought to benefit the undeserving. Bradley certainly was undeserving.
If you didn’t get the joke, the joke was on you.
When I support affirmative action it is always about making sure the underserved and underrepresented get a fair chance. But recipients have to be qualified on the merits. They have to be truly deserving. That’s always been the true intent of affirmative action.
By using the phrase in my boxing post, I was mocking the traditional sense of affirmative action used by anti-affirmative action folks.
How else could Bradley be given the championship? It wasn’t because of his great skill to punch air and miss Pacquiao. The stuff of champions? No.
Another reader suggested that I was anti-black and showed I was OK with affirmative action for me, but not for thee.
Once again, my stand in favor of affirmative action in some people’s mind favors blacks and Latinos and hurts Asian Americans. So any criticisim of me on that point makes no sense.
So now that’s cleared up, there’s still this small matter of who won that damn fight.
Glad to see other fighters like Andre Ward chime in that Bradley should give back the belt. That would be interesting.
With their bad decision, the judges are simply reminding us that this is part of the “joy” of boxing–the post-ring debate.
And it goes on because the absolute “truth” can’t really be had unless one fighter can’t answer the bell.
You want certainty, knock the guy out. Until then, if you’ve got eyes, you’ve got an opinion. Box on.
Those who prefer logic bring up Pacquaio’s last fight with Juan Manuel Marquez and say Marquez should have won that. They call the Bradley fight “karma.” B.S. The Marquez fights were actually close, and could have gone either way.
The Pacquiao Bradley fight was not 115-113 close, and certainly not in Bradley’s favor.
In fact, many of the conspiracy theories out there now figure Arum needed to pump up Bradley’s credibility to keep his cash cow Pacquiao boxing until the guy everyone really wants to see Pacquiao fight –Floyd Mayweather, Jr.–gets out of jail. Do we really want to see a Pacquaio Marquez IV? Or do we want to see “Manny’s Revenge”? Arum has a need to keep things interesting. He owns a piece of all the boxers. Conflict of interest is just part of the professional game, which is as close to a monopoly as it gets. The state of boxing smells. And if it didn’t bother us enough before last weekend, maybe we just got used to the smell.
Still, some of us more interested in the sport of boxing try to keep the “sweet science” separate from boxing’s bitter, venal world that commingles high-stakes business and gambling.
This weekend’s suckerpunch was our wake-up call. It can’t be done.
The only thing we can do is act as consumers. Pay-per-view? Not with my hard earned dough.
Also see my pre-fight column where I question if Pacquiao has the desire to fight any longer. His post-fight demeanor has been very “Love they neighbor.” Maybe religion is his calling. Or maybe he figures the “lost brain cell to earned dollar” ratio in boxing is still in his favor. He can roll in the cash until early dementia sets in. He can quit, stay healthy or fight me.
And I know he won’t fight me now, because he knows I can beat him.
I just need the right judges.
You don’t really have to know boxing to understand that Timothy Bradley, Jr. did not win that fight against WBO welterweight champ Manny Pacquiao.
If you were one of the millions who plunked down their hard-earned cash to watch a “fight,” you could see it with your own eyes. Bradley was handed the championship belt, as if it were a pre-scripted fantasy. Or maybe the New Wrestling.
Before the decision was handed, it was a decent enough show. Pacquiao, the more experienced champ landed more punches and completely outclassed the younger Bradley, who tried to keep up with Pacquiao, but rarely got to him. Bradley did get in some body punches, especially while holding Pacquiao, but there was nothing from Bradley that appeared to stagger or even pose a threat to Pacquiao. Indeed, throughout the fight, Bradley’s trainer, by his use of the “F” word, seemed frustrated by his fighter’s inability to take the fight to Pacquiao. Bradley threw a lot of punches, but he also missed a lot. Meanwhile, Pacquiao was able to land his straight left against Bradley that staggered him again and again.
In my most charitable assessment, I didn’t see Bradley win one round. Bradley did nothing to Pacquiao that was close to the pounding Pacquiao put on Bradley in the fourth and fifth rounds.
But the judges saw it differently and gave the fight to Bradley.
Maybe this was boxing’s “affirmative action.”
Athletic judging is after all, subjective. We know this from watching Olympic skating judges from France.
There’s always the plausibility of an implausible result. Injustice happens.
Still, there are enough real injustices in the world to care about instead of this one, where Pacquiao reportedly got over $20 million for this fight to Bradley’s $5. (Nevermind what the judges might or might not get. All I can think of is the odds must have been so good on Bradley, and all the money bet on Pacquiao, that certain gambling interests just couldn’t resist a massive score.)
In a previous column on the fight, I had suggested that this be Manny Pacquiao’s last fight. Considering what boxing does to your brain, and with all the other interests Pacquiao has in politics, religion, and show business, leaving the ring now just sounded like a good exit strategy—before anyone gets hurt.
For Pacquiao’s sake, I wanted this fight to be his last. I just didn’t think it would be my last fight.
They’re already talking about Pacquiao Bradley II, to correct the injustice, and to, of course, enrich a few boxing promoters. (Ever wonder how Bob Arum has a piece of both fighters? It makes his claim of being ashamed for the sport ring very, very hollow.)
Sorry, boxing. As Roberto Duran would say, “No mas.”
I’ll be back when the game gets a massive infusion of integrity.